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Lending to a flakey friend


Question: Is there anything wrong with asking a good friend to secure the loan I'm giving him with the title to his car? Tom really needs the money, but he can be pretty irresponsible, and I don't want my $2,500 to become a gift.

Answer: In a word, No. And in two words, Absolutely Not.

Lending a flakey friend that kind of dough is a very generous thing to do, and insisting on some security in no way dilutes your generosity. After all, nowhere is it written that, in lending people money, you are required to make it as easy as possible for them not to repay you. And neither is it written that at the Bank of Friends and Family, the borrower gets to set the terms. If Tom is unhappy with the arrangement you propose, he can always try to find a friend or relative —- or, of course, a real bank —- who’ll offer him a better deal.

That said, we suggest you not secure the loan with his car. Why? Because if Tom’s as irresponsible as you say, there’s a good chance you’ll end up having to choose between two equally unattractive alternatives: taking possession of your buddy’s car (and there goes your friendship) or ending up with nothing.

Instead, consider asking Tom to give you some collateral to hold until he repays you: a fine watch, say, or his prized Stratocaster -— something of sufficient value to give him a real incentive to pay off the loan. Because you’re right: You don’t want to bet $2,500 on the good intentions of an irresponsible friend.

Questions? Email Money Magazine’s ethicists – authors of “Isn’t It Their Turn to Pick Up the Check?” (Free Press) – at FlemingandSchwarz@right-thing.net.

I have loaned money to both my brother-in-laws. I told my wife that, look, if we have decided to give them this amount of money, don't fret over it if it does not return. I have received 50% of my money back from one of them, I have yet to receive the rest and there is no clear plan how he will pay back. I do not like to bring up the topic because that gets my wife worried. So I agree that if you lend to your relatives, it's more of a gift, or don't lend at all. Though they may have a good intention to pay the money back, people just get too comfortable and do not have any sense of urgency. You are seen as someone who can afford to live without that amount of money – in short, if you gave it away without any collateral, you are wealthy! What's the hurry. :-)

Posted By Nick, Edison, NJ: November 14, 2009 9:54 pm

This will be a great case for Judge Joe Brown or Judge Judy down the road a bit!

Posted By Barb, Madison, WI: November 13, 2009 8:18 pm

I lent money to a friend 3 or 4 years ago, against the advice of my girlfriend, and have yet to receive any repayment. I knew when he asked for the money that I would probably never see it again. However, I grew up with my friend and consider him family. I felt the need to help. The bottom line is, when you lend to a friend or family member, you should consider it a gift – plain and simple. If it returns, then think of it as winning the lottery and treat yourself. Never lend money to family or friends that you'd feel uncomfortable losing.

Posted By James, Royal Oak, MI: November 12, 2009 8:29 pm

Based on my personal experience, I live by this saying:

"Never loan money to a friends. You will lose both your money and your friend."

If you can and are generous enough to give them money, give it to them as a gift and don't expect it to be paid back. A gift doesn't have to be as much as they ask for — any gift would show good will on your part. If you can't afford giving them a gift, just explain that you can't afford it right now, and don't feel guilty about saying no. You don't need to make excuses for not giving them money.

Posted By Robert W., Los Angeles, CA: November 12, 2009 8:07 pm

DEPENDS ON YOUR FINANCES!! GOT PLENTY?? IF HE IS A "REAL" FRIEND, JUST GIVE HIM THE MONEY UNTIL HE GETS ON
HIS FEET!! THAT IS WHAT A REAL "FRIEND"!! WOULD DO!!!

Posted By TIMOTHY DOYLE / N.Y.CITY: November 12, 2009 4:51 pm

Where was all this good advice last month? I just loaned a friend $2500 last month against my wife's recommendation. When I asked him for the money on the due date, he told me he didn't have it, but promised he would pay as soon as he got it. Now I am getting pretty angry.

Posted By Suckered Washington DC: November 12, 2009 4:16 pm

If he's flakey enough to have to ask you for the loan, he's too flakey to merit getting it from you. I think the friendship is doomed from here on out – if you give him the money, it will end when he fails to repay it. If you don't give him the money, he will resent it, and you probably deep down inside are annoyed with him for having the cheek to ask in the first place. Friends should never hit up friends for money!

Posted By Charlotte, Santa Fe, NM: November 12, 2009 2:07 pm

Don't do it! Plain and simple. I agreed to loan a relative 4k. A grandiose mistake!

Posted By MIchele, New Jersey: November 12, 2009 1:24 pm

I don't LEND money to anyone.

I did that once and spent a year fighting about it with my wife and son. Finally forgave the unpaid balance as a present because it was too much aggravation.

Give the guy the money if you can afford to make it a gift. Otherwise just say "I can't afford to give the money and I don't loan money to anyone".

Posted By Doug, New Orleans, LA: November 12, 2009 3:10 am

If you can't give it as a gift, don't lend it. If he can't afford the car, he can walk or bike or take public transport, and save enough to buy a car.

Posted By Mary, New York: November 11, 2009 12:44 pm

If you're that uncertain that your friend will pay you back, you probably shouldn't be lending the money in the first place.

Posted By Jayson, NYC, NY: November 11, 2009 12:32 pm
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